Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 11:17:00 -0700
Reply-To: The GREYtalk Discussion List GREYTALK@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
From: “Matthewson, Kent” pykm@FINANCE.UBC.CA
Subject: [GREYTALK] FW: just catching up on stuff
To: GREYTALK@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
SCOTT CASPER wrote:
“It ticks me off that there’s too many discussions going on here for me to participate in all of them. That means – gasp – some of you aren’t hearing my opinions!”
Discussions? What discussions? This place has just been a big “Hi, I’m Joe, I’m 30 years old, and I have a gaming addition…” session for the past 2 days (grumble, grumble).
“He also wrote something else, though, that I would dispute. He equates Pholtus with Christianity, but is a lesser sun god really the most appropriate analogy? I would have to pick at least two gods to represent the dualism of Christianity – Zodal for the good side, mercy and benevolence, and St. Cuthbert for the bad side, ruthless expansionism.”
I think the idea of equating Pholtus is not due to his attribute as a lesser sun god (although there are arguments to made for that), but primarily due to his doctrines, and particularly those of the Pale – authoritarian doctrine that dictates the life of the state as well as the religious life, vigorous attacks on “heretical” beliefs, and a strong evangelical element. These are the hallmarks of Christianity; more so than other (historical or real) religions.
“(Still haven’t found time to get to that Codex page)”
Not to blow my own horn (especially since only a tiny fraction of the material there is mine) – my friend, you are missing much!!
“About the more recent post about the Rain of Colorless Fire, did the Greyhawk Adventures hardcover really say it came from the Quasi-Plane of Ash? My interpretation (inspired by a fellow gamer) has always been that the Suloise and Baklunish were highly advanced civilizations with nuclear technology, making the WoG really just a variant of Gamma World (or vice versa). The “Rain of Colorless Fire” was just a euphemism for radiation fallout.”
Wow! That’s one I had never heard before – it would put a very different spin on things to use that interpretation. It could make for some interesting campaign details. However, I don’t think that was what was intended, although, as I say, could make for some very interesting cross-genre gaming.
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Wednesday, October 1, 2008
Tuesday, September 30, 2008
Re: just catching up on stuff
From: HRADEK, ROBERT
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 1997 10:39 AM
To: Recipients of GREYTALK digests
Subject: RE: just catching up on stuff
SCOTT CASPER wrote:
>It ticks me off that there’s too many discussions going on here for me to participate in all of >them. That means – gasp – some of you aren’t hearing my opinions!
Agreed, though it could also be because my opinions are not of interest to most on this list. I was one of the starters of the pot
>He equates Pholtus with Christianity, but is a lesser sun god really the most appropriate >analogy? I would have to pick at least two gods to represent the dualism of Christianity – >Zodal for the good side, mercy and benevolence, and St. Cuthbert for the bad side, ruthless >expansionism.
I believe that all of the gods were designed as aspects of Christianity in the WoG setting. It is what westerners are first off, more familiar with, which is also why WoG has pantheonistic religions mirroring those of the ious believers.
>My interpretation (inspired by a fellow gamer) has always been that the Suloise and Baklunish >were highly advanced civilizations with nuclear technology, making the WoG really just a >variant of Gamma World (or vice versa). The “Rain of Colorless Fire” was just a euphemism >for radiation fallout.
Actually I had come to this conclusion for a while also, especially with machines like the Apparatus of Kwalish and Lum and Leuk-ohuman looking androids on I hinting that it may have been a from a human space colony from Oerth’s past. Not to mention other little clues, even though most likely put there just for an in joke amongst game designers, like a model of trine of Tomoachan. Maybe even the ship in the Barrier Peaks is the Warden….
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 1997 10:39 AM
To: Recipients of GREYTALK digests
Subject: RE: just catching up on stuff
SCOTT CASPER wrote:
>It ticks me off that there’s too many discussions going on here for me to participate in all of >them. That means – gasp – some of you aren’t hearing my opinions!
Agreed, though it could also be because my opinions are not of interest to most on this list. I was one of the starters of the pot
>He equates Pholtus with Christianity, but is a lesser sun god really the most appropriate >analogy? I would have to pick at least two gods to represent the dualism of Christianity – >Zodal for the good side, mercy and benevolence, and St. Cuthbert for the bad side, ruthless >expansionism.
I believe that all of the gods were designed as aspects of Christianity in the WoG setting. It is what westerners are first off, more familiar with, which is also why WoG has pantheonistic religions mirroring those of the ious believers.
>My interpretation (inspired by a fellow gamer) has always been that the Suloise and Baklunish >were highly advanced civilizations with nuclear technology, making the WoG really just a >variant of Gamma World (or vice versa). The “Rain of Colorless Fire” was just a euphemism >for radiation fallout.
Actually I had come to this conclusion for a while also, especially with machines like the Apparatus of Kwalish and Lum and Leuk-ohuman looking androids on I hinting that it may have been a from a human space colony from Oerth’s past. Not to mention other little clues, even though most likely put there just for an in joke amongst game designers, like a model of trine of Tomoachan. Maybe even the ship in the Barrier Peaks is the Warden….
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